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#28: The DJ Deck Effect (Expectation vs. Reality)

Posted by Mitchell Milliron

This week, we’re going old school—no cameras, just conversation. What starts as a story about a surprise DJ controller purchase quickly spirals into something deeper: the gap between who we think we’ll be when we buy something… and who we actually are once it’s sitting in the corner collecting dust.

We unpack the “DJ Deck Effect”—that universal experience of buying into a vision of ourselves (artist, musician, photographer, gardener extraordinaire) only to face reality: time, effort, skill… and sometimes just plain disinterest.

From unused painting supplies to hypothetical bird photography careers, we explore how consumerism, creativity, and adulthood all collide—and why we keep falling for it anyway.

Then, we pivot into a different kind of stress: vacation planning. What is the ideal vacation? Relaxation? Adventure? Escaping your house but bringing your chaos with you? With a week off approaching, we wrestle with expectations vs. reality (again), and whether you can ever truly “relax” with a four-year-old in tow.

As always, it’s a mix of humor, honesty, and trying to figure life out… while doing the most.


🎧 Key Topics & Moments

  • 🎚️ The DJ Deck Reveal
    A $300+ surprise purchase sparks a bigger conversation about hobbies, identity, and unused potential.
  • 🧠 Buying the Idea of Yourself
    Are we purchasing items—or the fantasy lifestyle that comes with them?
  • 🎨 Adult Hobbies vs. Reality
    Painting, photography, music… why do so many passions stall out after the initial excitement?
  • ⏳ Time vs. Money Paradox
    Kids have time but no money. Adults have money but no time. Cool system.
  • 📸 The Nikon Commercial in Your Head
    Imagining your future self vs. actually becoming them.
  • 🌱 Where Creativity Still Lives
    Cooking, gardening, music—finding realistic outlets that stick.
  • ✈️ Vacation Expectations Spiral
    What are we actually trying to get out of time off?
  • 🏡 Airbnb vs. Hotels Debate
    Once you go Airbnb… can you ever go back?
  • 🌧️ Oregon Weather Existentialism
    False spring hits different when you know the rain isn’t done with you yet.

💭 Quote of the Episode

“You’re not buying the thing—you’re buying the version of yourself you think you’ll become.”


🔥 Takeaways

  • We’re all guilty of the “DJ Deck Effect” in some form.
  • The fantasy is often more exciting than the follow-through.
  • Creativity isn’t gone in adulthood—it just needs realistic outlets.
  • Vacations don’t have to be perfect to be meaningful.
  • Sometimes the best move is lowering expectations… just enough to actually enjoy things.

📣 Call to Action

What’s your version of a DJ deck?
That thing you bought (or almost bought) imagining a whole new life?

Let us know—DM us, comment, or send us a message. We promise we won’t judge… we probably own one too.


Show notes here

Mitchell
It’s nothing to do without those video cameras. Because we’re back. But This is episode 28. Woo, you knew this time. I know. Nice. Did you study? You’re getting ready. Yeah. Oh you’re trying to enjoy the song. You did study it up. All right. With stories that sparkle and barely begin or end. The stories never end. Doing the most. Alright. It is. We are back coming at ya. Not live, because this is uh pre-recorded. But you know we’re doing a little something different. We’re going old school this week. Do you notice that? What does that even mean? No cameras. No cameras in the studio.

Scarlet
I didn’t have to like Feel try.

Mitchell
Oh, yeah. And it is actually kind of a poopy day outside if I can say that. As far as like the actual like it’s all rainy and crummy and doesn’t feel good outside So that guy stinks, but it’s alright. We’re in here and we’re cozy and we’re doing the most with our podcast here, everybody. So, episode 27. As we move throughout this, I you know I why is why is someone listening? I don’t know. You might be a nurse, you and we’re nurses, you might be a parent or a stepparent You might be uh someone who has a podcast, you might be doing the most. What else? Who else might be listening You might just know us.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
And this really is just kind of a general conversation that we have. It seems that always my side, which is what seems to be always focused, is around stuff and garbage and doing the most and Your side is always uh like this restraint of your uh deep down held beliefs and ideals that you uh want to like let out there.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
Yeah. Sorry.

Scarlet
I’m thinking of doing my own spinoff podcast.

Mitchell
So because yeah, one of the rules if you’re are new to this. We don’t do politics generally. I don’t think we we we’ve like we brushed against some things once. But no we we keep it apolitical so you can listen and like this is supposed to be a safe space where someone can go, I don’t have to listen, ’cause I feel like we’re In the current times we are in, it’s just it is a lot of politics, a lot of stuff just going on.

Scarlet
So this is very hard to avoid.

Mitchell
So this is kind of the safe space. So I told you already kind of one of the things that’s been on my mind recently. Not really, but it was it was and this is not a full 30 oh did I start the timer? Oh G Mini Great. I already blew a timer. I didn’t like run that timer. Um, the idea was we were talking about something. We can talk about it too, but like Um my older boy, 16 year old, has in we can see in the studio, he has a pioneer uh it’s like a DDJ4. It doesn’t matter. It is a It’s a turntable deck. It’s two decks. It’s like if if you know turntable stuff, you know what it is. It’s a DJ thing. Okay.

Scarlet
People like when you say turntable, people are gonna be like, I don’t know.

Mitchell
It has two wheels And two sides and then you can like mix stuff and like it’s what if you see I mean it’s the intro level to be in a DJ like which and a DJ by the way can be anything from the guy, you know, your cousin’s friend at your sister’s wedding who just made songs go from one to the next versus going to the big rave and the guys at the front wearing a weird hat doing the bobbing and he’s like mixing in all kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Like really complicated.

Scarlet
Um Okay, when when this thing appeared in our house, right, I was like I don’t know. It it was of no surprise to me and I was like, okay, this is another paintball gun thing. He must have bought it from his friend for fifty bucks.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
And n you know, now we’re like piddling around with it, you know. And then and then finally three months later, you know, you tell me the real story last night and my jaw Hit the floor.

Mitchell
It’s not even it’s just more of uh the real the truth behind it, which was he bought it brand new at the local guitar center. He went with my father months ago and he bought it Brand new.

Scarlet
Without telling you.

Mitchell
Yeah. It didn’t mention I don’t know. Oh, I might have been not been available, but my dad was probably like, sure, I’ll take you there. And then, you know, it’s three hundred and twenty nine dollars.

Scarlet
I’ve never even heard this kid listen to music

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
I’ve never heard him you know, walk around jamming out.

Mitchell
Just like never doesn’t live in headphones. Right.

Scarlet
To mix beats. Yeah. Ever.

Mitchell
But and you know, and that’s and then I you know that’s and that’s okay. But I mean yeah, it wasn’t like if I made a list of things you’re like, oh, you know, if If you just look at your child, you have a list of things that your child might be into and you might be like, oh this, that, the other. This would have not been um I would not have ever looked at my son and be like I bet he’s I see a DJ kind of thing, right, in his feature. So and we while we’re not both around all the time, I’ve seen it used when his sister came into town, she wanted to see kinda how it worked So there’s that time. I played with it a bunch. Initially it was like, hey, let me just I want to learn the ins and outs of it. And then my and then I seen my boy, my the sixteen year old, I’ve seen him use it maybe twice, maybe three times total It could be other times. But it it lives in here in the podcast studio and I and it hasn’t moved, so I know that it’s like not currently in his room being used, right? So but it it inspired the discussion. So I’m not downing on him because Because we I pose the question, is this a a sixteen year old thing? Is this a male thing? Is this a mill iron family thing? like a m or a mill iron mail kind of thing because I too have some things that I bought and then haven’t used as much as I thought. And then that’s when I told you I was like Well, art isn’t um part of the consumerism is like we s well we, uh one, I’ll just say I buy something and sometimes, even down to when I was a little kid There is the expectation you’re like, oh and whatever it is. Like I brought up easy bake oven maybe that sounds like you know, I didn’t have an easy bake oven. But like you buy something when you’re a real little kid and you have this vision of what it’s gonna be like like um You’re gonna buy a magic set, which actually my the boy the DJ also buy a magic.

Scarlet
Yeah, this is the modern-day magic set.

Mitchell
I’m using it as an example, right So when you’re a kid, let’s just say you’re like your dream about getting this magic set and you save up all your money and you’re waiting forever to buy, have enough to get this magic set. And then you’re imagining once you get it, you’re like, man, I’m gonna be putting on shows for the neighborhood, maybe doing something well nowadays maybe on YouTube, but you’re just like imagining your expectation of what your life’s gonna be like once you get this item. Like it’s not just the item, it’s like the lifestyle everything that goes along with the item is what you’re literally like kind of sold on. You’re like, oh yeah, this is like kind of what you think And so, you know, as we get older, maybe we start to realize the start to like go like, yeah, that’s not actually how it works. Like, I’m gonna like reality versus my expectations. However, I still have purchased things where I’m like, my plan is to get a lot of use out of something. So he’ll he’ll give me a bad time about some iPhone accessories I have for filmmaking and he’s like, How’s that coming, Dad? You know, I’m like Well my idea was so but what I’m saying is really that I think we sometimes or I do you’re buying a concept or an idea. That’s what the appeal is when you’re buying this stuff But the reality is it’s like, yeah, it’s like that’s they’re two different things. So I don’t know what he so in this case, I don’t know if he was imagining You know, be in front of a crowd, just like bobbing his head, doing the like I I don’t know.

Scarlet
Or do you get it and you realize it’s a lot harder than you thought it was?

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
I mean that’s And you’re like not willing to put in the work. Because I I guess my I you know, last night we were Talking about this and I was thinking, what is my adult version of this?

Mitchell
Of the DJ deck.

Scarlet
Yeah. Because sure, we all had this thing as a kid where we were just begging our parents, like, please, I just want This thing ’cause you have this fantasy in your head that this is gonna be life changing for you. I can’t think of anything in my childhood off the top of my head. I’m sure there were plenty of things. But My adult version of that, I guess, was like all the painting supplies I have upstairs.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
So I thought I was going to find some sort of passion in painting.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
And so I you know, found a coup you know, st started on a couple canvases and I was just like, I am really bad at this.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
This is terrible. What am I doing? Yeah. And I just dropped it altogether. Never did it again.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
But here I am like a hundred and fifty dollars into painting supplies.

Mitchell
Yeah. I’ve got you beat by hundreds of dollars in painting supplies.

Scarlet
Yeah, you know. I didn’t know what I was doing Like I’m yes, I could probably take classes, I probably could have taken online classes, but again, you gotta put the work in.

Mitchell
Well And I was trying to no I I agree with that because I was kinda thinking like what is the difference? So as an adult, I have lots of hobbies or well I shouldn’t say hobbies because I have lots of passions that I would like to turn into hobbies. But for me, what’s you know, what’s the biggest resource I lack?

Scarlet
Time.

Mitchell
Right. Yeah.

Scarlet
You always quiz me on this. Everybody knows the answer

Mitchell
Okay, well I just know you know the answer, right? Well I guess I’m just saying like it’s times like I can buy all the stuff I want, well almost and but it’s the time. Whereas when you’re a kid Time that is not a resource that you think about. It is not you have all the time in the world. I mean you literally feel that way, do you not? Yeah. Depending on how young you are. You’re just like, man, I got my whole life I can do whatever I want. So it’s like so it’s interesting that divert that uh that split between all the time, but maybe when you’re a kid you don’t have the money, resources, the capital to buy these things that you wanna try. But you have all time in the world and then as an adult you’re like yeah I don’t have the time but I I might have the you might have the passion to paint. I have the passion I’ve been wanting to start painting but I’m trying to do another little I’m trying to keep my uh passions encapsulated.

Scarlet
I think or I’m my passions in cooking. I feel like as you grow, you start figuring out where your passions are. Like now my passions and like Gardening, cooking. I wish I had more space for gardening. Feel like it could be really I don’t know. But yeah, birds. Birds.

Mitchell
That strange thing though, where you convince yourself in your head, even as an adult though, at least you start to I mean, I sometimes go through the exercise of imagining what’s my life gonna be like with this thing that I really want And then sometimes I’m able to jump forward and be like and then imagining, oh that’s right, I’ve had it now a while and I don’t enjoy it or it’s not as much or took more time or it’s harder than I thought or the skills are harder or there’s more stuff I needed to buy and then I can get over it and never buy the item. But it’s and I can’t tell is that what what is that? Is that good I don’t say marketing, but like or is that we’ve just we’re raised to be consumers and is that part of our thing? I guess I was trying to contemplate is this a modern day problem or is this just like a forever like we’re all kinda humans, we’re just dreamers.

Scarlet
I mean, you know I mean I think it’s partially both because you know did we have the resources to be able to do we though. We live mostly off of, you know, most of our American society anyways lives off credit. Right. And we want If we want the newest Apple product, we don’t usually go buy it in cash. We finance it. Right. You know. So um I guess yeah, I don’t I think the marketing has a big part of it. It’s like, oh, you can buy the the newest um iPad and you can

Mitchell
you know, make these amazing drawings and paintings and or you see yourself doing the things that they’re in your list like, yeah, I’m gonna be that person.

Scarlet
Yeah, you see them doing this stuff and then so I think a lot of it is marketing and we totally buy into it.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
In a way. We’re like, yeah, I can do that. Like the other day I was thinking I love bird watching and I was like I want I want my house to have like meaningful pictures on the wall, things that are important to me and I was like, what if I just buy a really nice camera? And I take pictures of these birds.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
And then I was like, what are you talking about? Like And then you go get you go print them where, Scarlet, for how much. Right. And then frame them. And then what are you doing?

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
And I’m like, okay. Yeah, you’re right. I totally just like talked myself out of it. But here I here I am in a Nikon commercial and you know, you’re like taking the picture and it’s just like this

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
Beautiful. You see all the feathers and the and the all the detail in the bird and this is what I’m envisioning and hanging it on the wall. Like I took this picture of this you know, red breasted Robin, yeah or whatever.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
I took that picture.

Mitchell
I’m like, what are you talking about? I said interesting. Well no, but see I’ve done that. So I’ve done that and then talked myself out where I’m like, I’m like, what and then well you get to a point where like Why don’t I just save myself the time and energy and go buy what or you say would I actually go spend eighty dollars on a an excellent frame professional picture of a bird that someone else took and hanging on the wall and and you might be like, well no, then there’s not much pride or you’d be like, ah, it doesn’t mean that much, or you’re like Or you imagine this is where I’m spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars framing stuff and then suddenly I’m just like I mean yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Sometimes you can get to the end and go Which is also sort of sometimes disappointing because you’re like, darn it, but you had to have you had that little fantasy for a while of enjoying like imagining like ooh and I’m out there and I’m taking a picture and I d yeah. I it’s strange.

Scarlet
I think we all just like crave creativity and individuality because we lose that in adulthood. And when you’re a child Like the world is your oyster. You can explore and do, you know, in your mind you can do anything. You can explore with anything. You can accomplish anything. It doesn’t matter if you’re doing it right or wrong. You don’t care. Right. You’re just exploring. But when you’re adult And you try something, you’re just like, oh my gosh, I’m terrible at this. This is awful.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
I’m never gonna, and you’re like so hyper-critical of yourself. And So then you just drop it altogether. And so I think we just like crave because you’re reading that book Beyond anxiety because when you’re in creativity, there is no anxiety. There can be no anxiety.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
So we just crave like when I’m cooking, I’m totally in my Zen space, you know Yeah. Because that’s my creative outlet. When I’m outside gardening in the spring and the summer and I can see my flowers growing and I go out and I prune them a little and then I see more flowers growing and I’m just like And then the hummingbirds come and they get to enjoy those flowers. I’m just like, they’re the fruits of my labor. Right. I love that.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
So I don’t know. I think we’re products of this terrible capitalistic society that we have grown up in. And also just products of Adulthood. Like being just hypercritical of ourselves.

Mitchell
Yeah, no, I’m just I’m just reflecting back to the you know the the inception of this which was this DJ deck, which, you know, then strangely, we laugh about it ’cause it’s you know, it’s funny, right? But we’re both guilty of something in our lives similar. Maybe when we’re younger, you know, saving up or I mean I shouldn’t say I know I am And then I that’s why I feel like, oh I f I kinda hurt for him ’cause I’m like, did he did does he wish he had that money now? Does he wish he had the time? Does he does he not care? I don’t know. It doesn’t really matter. It’s not my job to solve. Um Although we might see if I eat w see if he wants to sell it or something, but Mike doesn’t he want a car? Yeah, I don’t know Well it’s but it is and so I guess I’m saying it is strange. This whole idea I mean here we are and by the way we’re sitting in the studio next to yet a new another an item I bought. Which is a new um piano. Well it’s a key piano, sorry. It’s a it is a keyboard. It is a Roland uh keyboard, weighted keys. It is it is uh mid-level.

Scarlet
It’s nice, but it’s not, you know, it’s not But we got rid of our old one.

Mitchell
Yeah. So and that was but I didn’t so here’s the difference though. I didn’t buy that And here’s I did not have the vision of I’m gonna get this thing and I’m gonna suddenly become a blossoming piano.

Scarlet
You genuinely enjoy playing the piano.

Mitchell
Right. So if you see me doing lessons and stuff, it’s more like I just wanna like learn some more skills for myself because that’s how I express myself on the piano like through just playing it. I don’t need anyone to hear it to feel good. Right. So but it’s much more expressive than the other keyboard ’cause it’s it feels like a piano. But uh but I am laughing but and then yeah I said oh you know if Max enjoys it growing up great or if he if it inspires him a little more to feel that thing. But yeah, I mean I’m okay admitting, yeah, I just w I’ve w I’ve wanted a good keyboard for a long time.

Scarlet
You want a real piano, but

Mitchell
Oh yeah. And I’m not gonna lie, I was playing I started having tears the other day from some chords that I was playing. It was just like I was like, oh my goodness, this is so like the court that I kind of was messing around with just they touched me, which sounds really now that sounds arrogant or something, but I was like, yeah. I was like, oh my goodness, this is so sad. Like this progression, it was just a It was just strangely sad. Like but like but I enjoyed it You’re getting tearful just thinking about it. I enjoyed that emotional thing and then I was in my own space. Like I didn’t need whatever. So I guess, you know. So there’s my non-DJ deck.

Scarlet
Maybe he had maybe You know and you know you think about I think about when you think about your own parents like your dad has a banjo.

Mitchell
Yeah

Scarlet
That might be his DJ his baby his DJ turntable thingy.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
Um I’m trying to think if my dad ever had

Mitchell
I mean and I’m gonna acknowledge some people are better than others at arriving at the conclusion. You know, or not. You’re thinking. Yeah. No, I’m trying to think of my own.

Scarlet
My mom had a lot of DJ Dex equivalents.

Mitchell
She has a lot of TVs. What was her dream? To open up a T V store? Oh well anyway. It’s interesting in we’ve always talked about stuff and consuming and too much stuff and doing the most and I guess that’s why I was kinda thinking lately like you know that idea and I you know I feel like maybe I’m the bad example to my son because I do acquire stuff that but for me it’s like I don’t have the time trust me If I didn’t have to go to work 36 hours a week, I would be painting and doing all the things that inspire me, but I do not. So anywho, we done with that topic

Scarlet
I guess.

Mitchell
Which brings me to the next top. Although do you have anything on your mind? Because I had a second thing on my mind recently

Scarlet
I don’t this week.

Mitchell
That’s okay. This this two weekly. The other and we you know and here was uh here’s what it was. What we were talking today, we were trying to figure out we have leave coming up. We have uh A vacation. Well not a vacation. We have a week off coming up next month. And it has been actually started causing me stress as I was in a shower today. I was like, I was like, oh my goodness, like It’s like what of this this whole thing is coming on glued or what are we gonna do? And it’s and it’s like cause we were trying this originally for the listener, we were like, oh we’re gonna go we liked we’ve have in the past escaped to Arizona at this time of year because we’re in Oregon And we I can look out the window right now and there’s literally a flood warning uh because there’s so much rain coming down. And I mean not a flood they got flooded our house. But I mean I don’t know why they issue a flood warning too. I’m like uh okay. We live next to a river, okay. Not us, but okay, yes, not that close. My point is it is cold and rainy and gray, and usually it’s like, oh, nice to go, feel some sunshine, get someplace warm And we were kinda we originally done and we went to Arizona and then we kinda shifted gears there for various reasons. We both had had the same similar like ah maybe not the right time. Then we were kind of looking at southern kind of Oregon places and then I’m like I started kind of kind of like like what and I’ll ask you, what what is this vac what is a vacation? What is it you expect? What do you want? What what is the The goal. I mean I have ideas on this. You want me to share mine and you can while you’re thinking and not listening to me?

Scarlet
I mean I guess it’s an excuse to get out of your house for a while and not worry about just kinda like just get away from Yeah, the things. And then I love the Airbnb, so you get to go pretend to live in a different house for a while. Right. Which can be fun.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
And to see stuff that visit places you haven’t visited before. Because we were talking about Southern Oregon and I was like, oh my gosh, neither you’ve lived in Oregon your whole life. You’ve never been to Crater Lake. Yeah. And you know, then two and a half hours away from there is the r um Redwood National Forest. Right. Which is amazing. And you’ve never been there. So That would be some cool stuff for my you know, our child to see. Right. Because when I was growing up, we went to the same two places. I’m sorry. Yeah, I no I’m laughing because I And do I always do I talk about this a lot? No, but it’s just funny because the I mean but when you think about it like what a waste. I mean because like I mean, I don’t know. I don’t hold this over my parents and I’m just like, how dare you? But You know, and yes, we have been to Arizona for a couple times, but no, this might be like the universe saying like go somewhere different for a change. Like try something you haven’t tried before Go to a couple places you haven’t been before and see some things.

Mitchell
So Right.

Scarlet
I I guess, yeah, I don’t know.

Mitchell
Well see and I was stressed. So I would so for me I was like, what do I want out of a vacation? And I and part of it was like, yeah, it’s just nice to like get out of your own house because that’s where we’re at all the time. And then it’s like I do I was like, yeah, I do like to go someplace where it’s sunny Preferably warm. It’s hard to say if it’s gonna be more than 70s, but that’s better than what we’re getting here at, you know, uh 50-52 degrees Uh warm sunshine. We we it’s nice to have the pool, hot tub, some of those amenities which we don’t have, especially if it’s warm and sunny. But I was like, oh But you know what do I really want out of a vacation is just sit around and do nothing? Because there’s also we’ve talked before, you know, vacations the kind where you’re like You have a you have an itinerary for every day and then you and then the big joke is when you get back from your vacation, you need a vacation from your vacation because you s ca it was like go, go, go, go, go. And we generally don’t do those, I don’t think I think we try to mix a little bit of some schedule stuff with being a little bit more lazy loungy. Which is why we usually like the pool and the outdoor, like having a space that we can be at and where doing nothing means, hey, I’m just sitting out in the sunshine or I’m swimming in the pool or I sit in a hot tub or sauna, whatever it is. Which I think that’s why for me the space is kind of important because sometimes I I just want to actually This is that funny. We talk about your your fantasy in your head versus reality. I’m usually like, ah, I take a couple books. We’ll be in Arizona. I’ll be Reading a plow through these books that I’ve been trying to finish. I’ll probably just relax. I’ll probably just do some drawing different things. But then the reality is, oh we do have a four-year-old. We have a preschool age kid Uh, there is no just lounging around. Uh, you know, so especially in the new place. It’s not like So that’s where I was like, oh, should we be doing a staycation? Should we be saving money and picking the local things to go do each day? I mean this is where I started getting stressed out. I was just getting stressed.

Scarlet
I’m just thinking.

Mitchell
I didn’t know. So I mean that’s why I was getting stressed ’cause we couldn’t find a place that seemed reasonable enough in Ashland currently that was like, oh, this seems like a good idea and Will there be sunshine? Will the pool be heated? Will it matter? And then I was like, Maybe we need to zig the other way. Maybe we should be fine in that wintry cabin with the sauna and hata, but we like go snowshoeing and then I’m like, You gonna snowshoe for five days and drink cocoa and I’m like okay. I don’t I mean I guess I’m struggling and I don’t mess with snow. I want uh I want it to be meaningful but also like Don’t want to feel like it’s wasted. Sorry. I mean so I’m having this conversation. Well, I guess but bigger picture. So if you’re a listener, the idea is like, yeah, what is you know what’s the ideal vacation Because that’s the other thing. We work a job that is it’s it’s compassion, care And taking breaks is good, but we also because we have to plan these literally a year in advance, we have to like pick what weeks we’re taking off. So you just kinda ambiguously sometimes unless you got a wedding or something, you just pick a time and that’s how now it feels like I have to plan something because this is that one week, otherwise I’m just gonna be in regret Anyway, so it became stressful. I was like, well that’s no vacation should feel stressful either. So I mean because ideally, don’t you want to just feel like, yeah But I guess I’m just saying here’s in my head here’s where the mounting stress is. Okay, we go do this thing, but we don’t have a place with a pool or the weather is not quite pool conducive, so it’s like, ah, and now we’re just you can’t have a four-year-old in a hot tub for eight hours a day. Like, you know Then it’s like, oh, are we looking for things to do every day? We’re hiking, we could driving. I don’t know. I guess uh now I’m just making you anxious, which let’s be creative. Let’s make a podcast.

Scarlet
Um so I’m actually not anxious because I’m very good at Plan this is where men are terrible and women thrive. Is like planning the little things. Oh. So You’re like you’re you’re concerned about and I’m like, oh no, no, no. This is where I’m like, what is there to do in Ashland that’s family friendly? Like, that’s fun to do.

Mitchell
They probably and I don’t know this. I’m gonna throw this out there. Real quick. ‘Cause I wanted to go to Ashland ’cause Shakespeare acting, all that’s pretty I enjoy and they have the Shakespeare Festival. I don’t know if it’s going on, but I thought in my head, you know If if it’s as theater centric as they sound, they might have a children’s theater there, which is always fun. And those are shorter and they’re designed they’re like re I I did children’s theater work when I was younger, so I’m saying like there might be a children’s theater thing that’s actually fun for everybody. It’s like a Pixar movie, but it’s a theater. I mean in the sense of stuff for adults. So there might be something like that. Um pardon me, I d I don’t know enough I should know more. Um Part of me’s like, ooh, do they have like a Renaissance kind of festival? Like a fair where we go? I don’t know why I’m making Ashland out to be some place where people are larking.

Scarlet
I don’t know what it looks like. I Haven’t even looked at pictures. I looked at pictures of that thing and then, you know, I’m like, oh, a midsummer night’s dream is going on, but it’s like, oh You have to be six years or older to go, so cross that off the list or you and I can go, but he you know, the older one has to be we said And it’s probably like a couple hours, I imagine.

Mitchell
Right, two and a half, yeah.

Scarlet
So, you know, we can figure that out.

Mitchell
Yeah. Unless we decide to commandeer my mother. Um or see if she’s down for that. And I don’t know if Jim, boy, that’s a tough one. Sorry, father, if you’re listening to this. It’s not that we don’t want you to go. It’s more like maybe I yeah. Anyways, I should edit that. It don’t matter. Speaking of which my mother literally just texts us.

Scarlet
I know.

Mitchell
She she can’t listen live. So I guess I’m saying like ah it’s like Yeah, I don’t know. In my head I was trying to see what is the fantasy vacation. And and I’m not trying to recreate. I do love the Arizona thing normally But um also like we felt like there was some universal signs going, you know what, and maybe you’re right, maybe this is where I need to just relax a little bit and be like, you know, that’s all right. If there’s no pool. Well, and then I thought this too. I was like, well maybe they have like an indoor aquatic center where it’s like a couple days you just go out. Yeah, if we want to go swim in a Spend four or five hours at an aquatic center. There you go. Like problem solved. There’s still other things to do. I guess I part of me thought, don’t get so hung up on this pool, because it might not be It’s just is admittedly something. Here’s what my what I came to the conclusion of. I need to stop trying to recreate Arizona and South in Southern Oregon. Maybe that’s where I need to let go and be like, no, this isn’t Arizona wasn’t even that great. What? It’s so hot and warm and okay, sorry.

Scarlet
Oh, you were talking about like the weather.

Mitchell
Yeah, I do love it.

Scarlet
Oh, okay

Mitchell
But, you know, wasn’t that great? Wow, we both had different vacations.

Scarlet
Well I mean like just like just like This isn’t this one’s gonna be we had to look for stuff to do.

Mitchell
I know.

Scarlet
For to like keep people, you know, occupied. So And it’s

Mitchell
It’s probab it which seems like we’re gonna be close to wine country down there. Wineries I think there’s some of the Airbnb’s around wineries. Like maybe there’s like some There’s gotta be places too that like know like yeah we have stuff for kids like a little petting zoo. I don’t know. You know I’m just like maybe I’m sorry. I’m just saying it I was getting anxious not knowing.

Scarlet
We haven’t even booked anything yet

Mitchell
That’s also why I’m anxious.

Scarlet
I know, because like we have one good house that we could potentially well two.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
One with a pool.

Mitchell
Yeah. But we’re not sure have to like message and find out if it’s heated. That would be like Because one of them was like, oh it’s generally 20 degrees cooler than the air temp. And I was like, uh so 50 degree pool? Anyways. Because it’s solar heated by the stuff.

Scarlet
Does they mean 20 degrees warmer?

Mitchell
Uh I don’t know We can look into that. So there. So uh vacation should be fun. So what yeah, what about ideal vacation to you? So I mean you talked about some of it. Oh yeah, there you go. So the dream vacation, a nanny. So you can do adult things but still enjoy and not yeah Who knows?

Scarlet
I know like I don’t mean I don’t enjoy my kid. Like obviously we love our child, but it there’s also like the luxury of just being able to be like Well taking it down to the black. This is why it’s like taking the mother-in-law, right? Yeah. Right. Do you mind you know and we’re gonna go out to a nice dinner

Mitchell
It’s the f it’s the ability to enjoy things as if you live there and had childcare sometimes. So it’s like to so it’s like we’re in an area and there’s something really cool, but it’s not for kids. We’d love to do that. No, I’m with you. It’s not about Not him, it’s just like yeah, sometimes you are just want to be like, well, I want to do something adult, um, and not have to worry about entertaining a child. So Oh dear, okay, well really don’t have much more to say. I mean, you know, we talked about the the stuff and the the idea, yeah, the expectation versus reality and closing that gap mentally before you make the jump into something. And what are what are your DJ decks out there, people? Send in your feedback. Leave a DM, send uh leave a website message, like uh old Steve Houston. Uh what else? So, okay I don’t really have anything else. What is nothing else on my mind other than I just like this is this is the part if you’re from Oregon you know how this is. This every year I seems like in recent years, we get that little splurge of like sunshiny seemingly warm weather in maybe February. And you’re like, oh yeah. And then you’re saying to yourself, Well, we’re having a early summer this year. It’s gonna warm up. And then reality sets in is like, what are you talking about? We still got a lot of rain and cold, crummy, gray days to get through. And then it’s just that kind of like Sort of sadness where it’s like, oh man, and this is why I don’t know if I want to live here forever

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
It’s just sorry. Sorry, Oregon. I mean well I do love wearing Birkenstocks and you know wool socks. I’m all about that.

Scarlet
Okay, we can’t have this conversation right now. Okay.

Mitchell
We do not.

Scarlet
We don’t know what we’re gonna do or where we’re gonna be when we grow up, so but that’s for us to decide.

Mitchell
Unless we start we open a poll on our website

Scarlet
Oh my goodness.

Mitchell
Or an Instagram poll. Okay.

Scarlet
So Well with the way things are going, it probably won’t be the US.

Mitchell
Okay. Well, hey, nothing wrong with that. So okay. Well I don’t have any much more. It’s been a wonderful podcast, so glad that you joined.

Scarlet
Kept it short and sweet.

Mitchell
Short sweet. No video by the way. So if you’re Running over to YouTube, and I know you’re not based off of how I can tell. There’s no video this week, and that’s okay. I’m okay with that being okay. So

Scarlet
I will say after doing Airbnbs, I don’t think I can ever do a hotel again.

Mitchell
Not reasonably priced hotel.

Scarlet
I look at hotels And I’m like, oh it was like an all-inclusive, like, little resort resorty thing. Right, you know, whatever. What does that look like? And then I’m like, what? And then I’m like, you mean all the beds are in one room Yeah. And it’s still like a thousand dollars a night.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
And it like doesn’t even include food. Right. I I could never do it again. I don’t even know if I could do a cruise

Mitchell
Hmm.

Scarlet
I don’t know if I could do that.

Mitchell
Yeah. Well I mean you have to get one of the big giant suites, which is really expensive to have multiple rooms in your room.

Scarlet
Yeah Or you just have to get two separate too really cheap, you know. That’s literally insane.

Mitchell
Yeah. I would love to be that insane. Well, actually, you did remind me one thing that I did I went to just I’m throwing it out there. Okay, we’re almost done. We are done throwing it out there. I was like, what is the Canida Warm Springs what is their weather like? That’s an Oregon thing, Central Oregon. What is do they offer have I looked into that? I don’t know. It might it might be too early in the year. Oh is it it’s not a spa like

Scarlet
I mean they have spa stuff, but Or like you can bring your RV. Oh, okay.

Mitchell
I was just throwing that out there.

Mitchell
So anyway. So you know what time it is.

Scarlet
Okay.

Mitchell
Oh.

Scarlet
I’m Scarlet.

Mitchell
And I’m Mitchell.

Scarlet
And we’re doing the most. Bye!

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