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#27: Stuffocation, Smash the Patriarchy & Toenail Confessions

Posted by Mitchell Milliron

In this episode of Doing the Most, Mitchell and Scarlet spiral through clutter, change, grocery store anxiety, toxic masculinity, existential dread, and… toenails.

Yes. Toenails.

What starts as a reflection on a year of “maybe we should move” energy turns into a deeper conversation about stuff, memory, boundaries, emotional labor, and the repetitive tasks that quietly drain us.

It’s thoughtful. It’s a little chaotic. It’s very real.

Episode Highlights

Are We Craving Change?
Looking back over the past year, there’s been a pattern:

  • RV life dreams
  • Arizona talk
  • Virginia talk
  • Apartment fantasies
  • Burn-it-all-down energy

Is it wanderlust? Restlessness? Or just the human need for evolution?

Stuffocation™ (New Word Alert)
Mitchell coins the term Stuffocation — the suffocating feeling of being overwhelmed by your own possessions.

From toothbrush domino disasters to piles of unopened mail, the conversation explores:

  • Are memories in the object or in our minds?
  • When does sentimental become suffocating?
  • What actually deserves to be kept?

Minimalist vs. Hoarderline
Scarlet shares her upbringing between two extremes:

  • One parent who keeps everything
  • One parent who lives with almost nothing

How does that shape your relationship to stuff as an adult?

Grocery Store Boundaries
Scarlet opens up about feeling uncomfortable during routine grocery trips and deciding she’s done adjusting her behavior to accommodate unwanted attention.

The takeaway:
You don’t have to shrink yourself to make someone else comfortable.

Patient Behavior & Workplace Respect
A powerful discussion about:

  • Male patients speaking disrespectfully to female nurses
  • Why behavior shifts depending on who walks into the room
  • Setting boundaries without sacrificing professionalism

Mitchell reflects on witnessing different treatment dynamics as a male nurse.

Repetitive Tasks We Hate

Mitchell:

  • Trimming toenails
  • Sorting mail
  • Making appointments

Scarlet:

  • Washing and styling hair
  • Making dinner
  • Cleaning up dinner
  • Calling offices

Why do small tasks sometimes feel enormous?

Repetitive Things We Love

Scarlet:

  • Walking pad + podcast routine
  • Morning coffee ritual
  • Sleeping

Mitchell:

  • Feeding squirrels
  • Afternoon sun naps
  • The ritual of shaving

Small joys matter.

AI: Helpful Tool or Overhyped Intern?
Can artificial intelligence reduce mental load?
Or is it just impressive until you actually need it to do something useful?

Big Themes

  • Change & reinvention
  • Clutter psychology
  • Emotional labor
  • Boundaries & respect
  • Mental load
  • Tiny rituals that keep us sane

Quote of the Episode

“The memory is not in the item, it’s in your head… but the guitar reminds me of it.” 

If this episode hit home, share it with someone who:

  • Has a pile of mail they’re avoiding
  • Dreads making phone calls
  • Needs a reminder that boundaries aren’t rude
  • Or has strong feelings about leftovers

Thanks for listening to Doing the Most.
See you next week.

Episode 27: Stuffocation, Boundaries & the Mental Load

This week on Doing the Most, Mitchell and Scarlet unpack the constant itch for change, the suffocating weight of “stuff,” and the small, repetitive tasks that somehow drain the most energy.

From decluttering debates and sentimental clutter to grocery store boundaries and workplace respect, the conversation moves between existential spirals and everyday annoyances like trimming toenails, making dinner, and avoiding phone calls.

They also talk about:

  • Why we crave change
  • Emotional labor and mental load
  • Setting boundaries without guilt
  • The tiny rituals that keep us grounded

It’s thoughtful, honest, and just chaotic enough to feel familiar.

Thanks for listening to Doing the Most.

Mitchell
Welcome back to the podcast, everyone. This is Doing the Most. Scarlet and a Mitchell episode 27. Yeah. Do you even look back, you remember when we made this song? Or how this song was created? Yeah. Did Scarlet and Mitchell doing the most? Okay, that winds down or we wind up. Have you even spoken yet?

Scarlet
No.

Mitchell
Okay. Now you have. Yeah, you gotta listen to the music. It tells you to do this. And it fades out and we have fun. It is episode twenty-seven. You’re so you’re real sippy over there with the tea.

Scarlet
I’m almost done.

Mitchell
What is it? Oh it’s coffee. That’s how you’re getting your second win today. Oh boom. Don’t forget the timer, everyone. I just do it because it’s a good thing. We’ll still go over time, but We’ll try to keep it timely. It’s a little I mean, I was actually set up early today mostly, and then all the fire. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah Sometimes we do that. And then all the finishing touches. I had for and I forgot chapstick. And I didn’t make myself any tea, but I have some water. So There you have it, folks. That’s it for this week’s episode. We’ll see you next time. Oh. You know, so Every these two weeks we it’s almost like we meet. Uh did you roll your eyes, which yeah. Tune in then No, I didn’t. Go go to YouTube if you want to see all the facial expressions to go along. with this melodious voice that I have. Um what was I gonna say? Now you maybe lost my train of thought. Episode twenty-seven. The thematically so oh here’s a quick here we go Looking back over the past over a year that we’ve been making these and doing this, I was kind of thinking like, oh, we’ve had a variety of like little I don’t know what we call whims, whimsical ideas like it was like, oh, we’re gonna go to the R V show. Maybe we’ll do the R V life one day. Or we should move to Arizona. Or um We were talking about getting into uh you know moving out into a different into an apartment. Moving somewhere else altogether. Um, do we explore any other things? No.

Scarlet
Well, I think we were exploring like Virginia-ish.

Mitchell
Yeah. So what do all those kind of things have in common aside from moving? There’s many things in common.

Scarlet
Hmm, what do they have in common?

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
Moving.

Mitchell
Okay, yeah, I just said that. I yeah I feel like you’re not even here. Are you even present today?

Scarlet
I’m I am now.

Mitchell
Is it because it’s that time of day when the sun is your favorite and it’s a little bit more than a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of It is, and I was looking at the

Scarlet
Spider webs up there.

Mitchell
Do you see them?

Scarlet
They’re almost like perfectly formed.

Mitchell
That one almost looks like it’s got a dandelion thing in it. Sorry. For those of you who are listening, in the in the studio I have these triangular shaped windows at the top of two other windows And there is a spider web. I’m gonna have to get a picture of that. It actually looks more like a dandelion head, at least from my angle, the one spiderweb. It’s got so many like Strands coming out.

Scarlet
So anyways, I got distracted. Um what do they have in common? Well, not family. Well because there’s no family in Arizona.

Mitchell
Okay. I mean it’s not I’m not I don’t know. There’s many things uh change. They all involve change. Well but you know see I was thinking, I was like, is this an indicator that we need change. We need change or we’re looking for change. Is that what

Scarlet
So what’s our new plan?

Mitchell
I d I don’t know, but at the c well the core of these is some sort of change that we need to make or want to make.

Scarlet
But change is always yearning for change. Oh, it’s not gonna be hard for me I’m ready to leave this house. I’m ready to burn it to the ground.

Mitchell
And you how attached to stuff are you? This and by the way, this is a common thing. I’m not. Oh, it’s reminds real quick, real quick Man, I got a lot of real quicks. Off to the side, I coined a new phrase and this might someone may have already coined this, but I I arrived at it on my own. It’s like when two different people, two different guys came up with gravity or something like that, you know, like or the radio. I invented a phrase. It uh uh excuse me, a word. It is called stuffation Which is the sense of being suffocated by your stuff. I’m sure someone else has already coined this, but I came to it on my own. And let me tell you how I was at my sink the other day and I don’t know what I was doing, but I was having one of those hard days.

Scarlet
Did you look at my sink?

Mitchell
I don’t know, but I I had a hard day where I went to put like grab a toothbrush head And or was the toothbrush and it was like stuck just enough they pulled it and then all the toothbrush heads in the holder like popped out everywhere And I kinda try to grab some of those. I knock over like a thing, a lotion, which then dominoes over like two tubes of toothpaste, which I have over there. And I’ll and it was just like and then I am dropping stuff. It was just that moment of like Life is hard and I am being suffocated by all this stupid stuff next to my sink even.

Scarlet
Okay, I need you to like zoom out and realize how small of a problem that actually it is

Mitchell
Uh it is a small problem, but I’m saying the sense and anxiety and like it is it is small fix. Small problem, small fix. Right? Just get rid of all that some of that stuff. Move that stuff, right? But I guess what I’m saying is stuffication, I trademark me right now. Back to the other thing, change. All these things involve change. You’re like, what’s our next change gonna be?

Scarlet
And then you asked me, Am I attached to stuff?

Mitchell
Yes.

Scarlet
No.

Mitchell
Like you’re like take this phone, throw the garbage.

Scarlet
I am the parent that when Max comes home from school with like a Valentine’s Day thing and he’s like, oh look at all this crap I’m gonna I’m like okay and then as soon as he goes to bed that night I throw it in the garbage.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
I don’t care.

Mitchell
And I have files cabinet filled with that stupid.

Scarlet
I’m sorry. It’s not stupid. But that f fish thing that your other son made It’s a monster will probably live in some form until you die and I throw it away. No, I mean uh And you know this but it’s not But if you were to go up to him right now and be like Can I throw this away? He’ll be like I don’t care Right Right, right, but you have a problem.

Mitchell
This is the same problem every episode Okay. It’s going swimmingly. Um well I could get well I mean that was hold on, but you know how much other stuff I got rid of? Did you ever see the mountain of ceramic stuff that I threw out? From my other kids?

Scarlet
No.

Mitchell
I I had tons of stuff. Tons of weird I have pictures of them all because I was laughing and some of them like I don’t even know what they are It just says Annika on the bottom and it looks like a looks like a snail or I don’t even know what some of them are. I really don’t know what they are. I don’t even know how old she was. But anyway, so I got rid of all that stuff I just kept that one ’cause it’s just funny looking. Okay, wow. So you don’t have attachment to stuff or sentimental or just like

Scarlet
No, because like it’s just a thing.

Mitchell
Okay. And I agree. However, what’s interesting, because I’ve I I I’m the biggest hypocrite or like whatever I’m I can say it but I can’t do it. The uh idea of I always say the memory is not in the item, it’s in it’s in your head, right? I’m not the only one to say that, so not trademark But like, you know, it’s like it’s I don’t need well look around. I don’t need uh one of those guitars behind you that belong to my brother. ‘Cause I don’t need the guitar the memory of him isn’t in the guitar, it’s in my head, but the guitar reminds me of it. So But but m which is to say you don’t have to have the item. However, I recently with Max, him and I, I got out I was doing some garage cleaning and I got out an old tape deck and I have Tons and tons, tens and tens of old tapes from band stuff that I recorded with my brother and other bands. And he was having fun putting them in the tape player and playing them. And it was interesting because I had forgotten about some of those things, right? The songs and things that we had done. But it was pleasant to remember, but I would not have remembered those things. at that moment without the use of a tape deck and the tapes that we had. Meaning if I threw all those away, I’m not throwing away memories, but it’s those are the like the little things that spur the memory. So how do you feel about the idea like ’cause ‘Cause someone so I ma here here’s why I was gonna here’s what I was thinking. I thought, well, maybe you need to take a moment and go like if If something’s in I mean, I don’t know how you keep a memory that’s in your head but it’s Journal. An object that tells you ’cause I thought I could have If someone said, Hey, imagine you are twenty-one years old and living with your brother, what are you doing? And I could have told you about all that songs, but nothing spurred me to think about that until Max was going through all these tapes and learning some new words.

Scarlet
Um Yeah. Now he’s running around saying Uncle Weeness, so thank you for that.

Mitchell
So And so it does beg, I mean now I’m stepping back on my previous statement, was which was, oh, the memory is not in the item, it’s in your head, but like, I don’t know. And then I guess the bigger question I always ar arrive at is, does it matter? Like if you’re not remembering something That was cherished when you did remember it, like how important was that memory? I don’t know. And what are memories serving? We talked today about dying and stuff. So I mean I don’t know. I don’t know. This is where I’m lost. This podcast is really just becoming some weird therapeutical session where every week we talk about how much crud I have that can’t get rid of and it’s the same thing. This is the same episode you’ve been listening to people. It doesn’t change

Scarlet
We’re gonna make some progress, okay.

Mitchell
We’ve been saying that for over a year. The garage I made progress.

Scarlet
Which is good I mean stuff goes into the back of the car, it eventually finds itself in a goodwill bin.

Mitchell
Yeah. Well

Scarlet
There’s stuff in the back of the car that needs to find itself to a good willbin.

Mitchell
And some of it’s my stuff.

Scarlet
place to where I seriously think my mom is like borderline hoarder. And you’ve been to her place.

Mitchell
That’s called hoarderline.

Scarlet
Okay. And you’ve been to her place.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
Because like You know, y you look at her walls and every inch of wall space is like Okay.

Mitchell
Just keep talking. I’m not gonna look around the space for in.

Scarlet
This room aside, you know what I’m talking about, right?

Mitchell
Yeah, yeah.

Scarlet
And like She used to do the this is like unrelated, but she used to do this thing where like, oh, our family was gonna come visit, right? And they were gonna come stay with us. So she would do this thing and my dad and I would laugh and we would call it the reverse cleaning method. Right. She would stay up all night cleaning.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
But this cleaning would be pulling out everything from the cabinets in the kitchen.

Mitchell
And just and

Scarlet
I don’t know what she was doing. And then maybe vacuuming and leaving that vacuum in the middle of the floor. I mean eventually things would find themselves back in the cabinets. Right. But we were like, what is she doing all night long? It does not take this long to like clean a house.

Mitchell
She and why is she deep cleaning kitchen cabinets?

Scarlet
And she would stay up all night long to Like, I I don’t know. Make the house presentable for you know a family that’s gonna come in with five kids and just tear it up, you know. Right.

Mitchell
And they don’t care.

Scarlet
They don’t care Their house is always in disarray.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
So I don’t know. So yeah, she I don’t know. She still has a bunch of junk in like two guest rooms that like In her closet, she you can’t even see her closet floor because the clothes are piled almost to like the the the ceiling.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
W why? And then she she doesn’t even use her shower. She uses her shower as like a hamper or something. It’s filled with just more cloth. It’s actually kinda sad when I talk about it

Mitchell
Yeah. Well Oh well. You married your mother. No.

Scarlet
No, you’re not you’re not to that level, but it’s really bad. Like if you if you like remember your you I don’t know, ’cause you we stayed there a couple of times. You were like, Oh okay, yeah, you’re it’s actually really bad and then she has building and then she has those guest rooms and you’re like And then she is getting married and she’s refusing to give up her property because she doesn’t want to get rid of her stuff.

Mitchell
Yeah. Well I remember one of those guest rooms was like I didn’t really know it their door was always shut and I opened it one time and I think there was just enough room to step into it because of all the bins and just stuff.

Scarlet
Like that it was like, oh, I was like, this is And it’s just her living there It’s just her and a dog? So it’s psychological.

Mitchell
Case study. Hmm

Scarlet
So I’m coming from a place where I am like less is more. You know, my dad would come in and my brother and I were always just like, okay, when she leaves the house. We’re just we used to joke with her. We’re like, one day when you’re gone to work, we’re just gonna load up the back of the truck and she would be like, you guys better not you know Wow.

Mitchell
Is she can she tell when something’s missing though?

Scarlet
No.

Mitchell
Oh.

Scarlet
Do you think she has that much attention?

Mitchell
No, no, okay. Well I didn’t know. You know, like me, if we never actually did that. But too is missing, I know. Like Everyone hates when I come home and the one thing somebody moved is I instantly like, uh, somebody want to tell me where those two pencils I left on the edge of my desk went?

Scarlet
And everyone’s like, wow, how do they know Yeah, no.

Mitchell
She’s not like that.

Scarlet
Not organized.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
You definitely have organized chaos. Like your piles of papers are even organized. My mom Yeah. Not organized at all. So that’s where I’m coming from. My dad, very organized, very opposite. You know, we’ve stayed at both their places and you can see the contrast.

Mitchell
He could use a little more furniture like if you some furniture.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
Just Which is nice though.

Scarlet
He can use a kitchen table with more than two chairs.

Mitchell
Yeah. So like but in fairness. So yeah, okay. You’re dad. Well we’re we’re I’m trying to get there. It’s it’s uh It’s a combination of all my interests combined with all the the paraphernalia that goes with all those interests. So But I but I also hate how it is.

Scarlet
But I also accumulate stuff too. Like I have a bunch of books I haven’t read. I really want to read.

Mitchell
Yeah, you’re a member of a book club for a while, like a book order club. Like a that send you a book club. It wasn’t a kind where you guys read together. Or even read. You just received books in it’s like it was like get packages of books in the mail club That’s what it was, right?

Scarlet
Wasn’t it called Book of the Month?

Mitchell
Yeah. Yeah.

Scarlet
It was one book a month. Okay.

Mitchell
Saddle down. I can tell you how many years you were in that club by that one shelf on our in our room.

Scarlet
It was less than a year. Anyways, whatever. So I think any of those? Yeah.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
So I guess I I don’t know. I’m I’ve I’m also a contributor, but I’ve also read books and went and put them in the lending library.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
So

Mitchell
Fair enough.

Scarlet
‘Cause I’m like I’m never gonna read this book again.

Mitchell
Yeah. I mean I but I sometimes keep books. I’m like, I might want to revisit this one. But what you but do you not not fiction, but like you know, self-helpy kind of referential books. I guess that’s a little different. That’s what I tell myself. It’s not really working. Okay. What’s on your mind?

Scarlet
Oh.

Mitchell
I’m so tired of.

Scarlet
Of men. Okay.

Mitchell
Agreed. Tell me more.

Scarlet
Not only that, but I’m just like th I got a lot. I got a lot to say. But let me just start with just going to the grocery store, okay?

Mitchell
Alright.

Scarlet
I can’t even go to the grocery store to the produce section without the produce guy wanting to strike up a conversation, except for the one time that you were with me.

Mitchell
Same produce guy.

Scarlet
But all of a sudden very quiet. And I’m just like, I just want to be left alone. What about me? What am I wearing? That is like that is just like an open invitation for you to talk to me. I have a wedding ring on. I have sweats on and might as well be wearing a potato sack.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
You know? No makeup. Hair is probably a mess. I really do go out trying to look my worst, okay? And it’s just like, oh well What it what how’s your day been? It’s nice and sunny outside today and I’m just like I’m just looking for some freaking zucchini.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
Okay And I just wanna like leave. And then there’s also this guy there who follows me around the store. Now granted, I do think he might be security? No.

Mitchell
Not only that.

Scarlet
I think he might be like on the spectrum.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
But if I go there in the morning, like

Mitchell
Does he work there?

Scarlet
He works there. He’ll be like stalking shelves and then he’ll be like Oh hey, how you doing? And I’m like okay okay bye And then all of a sudden I am in an aisle he should not be in. Like, cause he was like over there stalking beans and I’m over here looking at paper towels, you know. And all of a sudden there he is facing, you know, paper towels.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
I’m just like not even trying to hide it, you know?

Mitchell
He’s like, hey lady. Wow. You’ve got a little friend.

Scarlet
So I w I I told myself, I’m I’m in this phase now. I women, listen to me. This is the time where we are going to step into our feminine power and say no more. No more. Okay, we’re done. With the toxic masculinity and with these men thinking that they can just strike up a conversation and just be like, don’t talk to them If they want to talk, I’m I’m not gonna engage anymore. And the next time that kid follows me around the store, next time he’s like, oh hey, how are you doing? I’m just gonna be like, don’t follow me

Mitchell
That’s how I not today.

Scarlet
Okay. How much?

Mitchell
All right, buddy. Yeah.

Scarlet
Because I told myself that the other morning. I get anxiety going into Fred Meyer now, which is I go to that store like three or four times a week, right? Just right there by Max’s daycare. Right. So I was like, oh my gosh, what if he’s there? And I’m just like, I’m going like they’re uncomfortable. Yeah. And I’m like, what am I gonna do? And I’m looking down every I’m like like going really fast with my shopping cart, looking down every aisle, and then I was just like, no. You are not going to alter, you know, your shopping behavior pattern because of this guy. You you are going to tell him no. Bad bad boy, you’re not gonna do this to me anymore. And you are gonna continue shopping. And then if it becomes a problem, you’re gonna go find a supervisor and just say this This kid is following me and it makes me uncomfortable.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
So and on top of that, I’m doing Patience. Let’s talk about patience now.

Mitchell
Yes, male patience.

Scarlet
Okay? Because the other day I found this Let me just tell you the story. Oh. And you tell me what you think.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
So patient comes in from like a skilled nursing facility. He’s a mess, you know. The first interaction with the female nurse that walks into his room, he looks at her and he’s like Oh well why don’t you tell me what’s the first thing they taught you in nursing school? And she was like, um I forgot what she said. It was like hand hygiene. And he was like, no. It was to shut up and listen.

Mitchell
Whoa.

Scarlet
And I was just thinking to myself, how come I never get these patients?

Mitchell
Maybe the universe is looking out for both y’all.

Scarlet
Because Now those kind of pa I don’t want anybody to take what I’m gonna say out of like if I had a patient like that, I wouldn’t neglect them. Right. But I wouldn’t go above and beyond. And we shouldn’t feel like we have to go above and beyond for somebody who treats us like that. We should not being treated like that is unacceptable.

Mitchell
Yeah

Scarlet
And we should not have to we we should not have to put up with that. Especially when a man feels like it’s okay to talk to a woman like that. I want to be like, d would you have a mother? Would you talk to your mother like that? That’s also something else I don’t understand. It’s like every man has a mother who raised them. And mothers are more prevalent in men’s lives than their fathers usually

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
So why is it okay for men to speak to women like that and for them to feel like they can hold this power? over women. I do not I do not understand it. It literally blows my mind. I don’t understand it. So we’re done, women. We’re done So the next time you go into a patient’s room and you feel that like energy of like misogyny and just be like, oh, do you talk to your mother like that Or would you talk to your mother like that? I’m a mother. Yeah. Like, and you’re talking to me like that, and I’m not gonna put up with it. I’m not gonna neglect you. But I’m not gonna go above and beyond for you. And I’m I’m sitting there like, no wonder you’re a hot mess and you have all these wounds all over you And you come from this skilled nursing facility because you treat people like that.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
Like you’re gonna get what you put out into the world.

Mitchell
Yes.

Scarlet
And so anyways, that’s my bit.

Mitchell
You’re tired of well, it’s interesting. So I’m a I’m uh a male, as you know.

Scarlet
And oh and that’s my other thing is like why I’m so I have to add, is why I’m so lucky to have you, Mitchell, because I feel like there’s men like you, and there’s men like Jeff who I work with, and there’s like several other men who I work with who I just feel are very in touch with her like more emotional, more feminine side.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
And we need more men like that. And I feel so lucky. to have you as my partner and feel like I don’t have to put up with this like narcissistic, abusive behavior.

Mitchell
Right.

Scarlet
That like some of my own friends I hear that their husbands, you know, treat them a certain way. So I’m just very lucky that you’re not like that. Well, I I know you have to put up with certain abuses from me.

Mitchell
But I feel yeah, we have a reverse abuse. Well, it’s interesting because I um every now and then a patient, uh you know, one of the the female nurses will tell me, oh, you know, when we’re getting reporters, will tell me kind of this guy’s a this and a that and all these things and then I will go in meet the patient and sometimes Sometimes I don’t get any of that and it bothers me because then it’s then I feel like sometimes it’s like, oh, either it’s because I’m surprised, surprised, I’m a white male, older white male. I don’t know if it’s something I don’t know what it is, but it bothers me that they’re disrespectful to other nurses and some and not me necessarily. Sometimes it’s still their jerk comes out, right? But it bothers me because then I’m like, oh then it makes it very clear that some people are just jerks all around to everyone and then there’s the ones that are jerks just to certain staff members, whether it’s, you know, their, you know, race Sex, etc. I I do want on occasion, if I overhear someone being like that, the guy, to a one of my co-workers, I will go in and I will be like, you’re not gonna speak threateningly or down to my coworker. I it gets me very angry when I hear people talking like that to females. I learned this in the ED at Salem because My buddy Derek down there used to always like s in any patient started to get mouthy, he would turn and there’s a sign on the wall in there. We don’t have the signs, but it says

Scarlet
Well we have a sign. It’s just uh you know eight by ten printout that’s on a random wall in the hallway that nobody ever sees.

Mitchell
Well each each room in the emergency department at Salem had right next to the door, so the bed facing the door and it And very big it would I don’t remember somebody said you will we will speak appropriately and non-threateningly and like and he would always turn and he’s like you’re not gonna speak this way And he would point out and he would just be like this just make this very clear. And he would set the boundaries very clearly and he would use the sign as his way of pointing. And I used to always feel like empowered to be like, yeah, I will tell anyone, look I will give you the care that I can give, but you are not gonna treat me any poorly or whatever. And it’s always so it’s irritating to me when I hear about it happening to females and I’ve heard stories, I’ve heard overheard it and it just it’s kinda like I always go like, Where does this person Learn this behavior. Where did they how do they get this way?

Scarlet
It’s so probably their father.

Mitchell
Irritating.

Scarlet
Which is like Anyway, so now I have my necklace I wear to work. It says smash the patriarchy. I’ve gotten so many compliments on it from other females.

Mitchell
Oh okay.

Scarlet
Um well good. So Women, we’re stepping into our feminine power. We’re not putting up with it anymore.

Mitchell
The future is female, as they say. So okay.

Scarlet
We are the future. We’re gonna save this world. Okay. Watch it happen in the next two to four years

Mitchell
It’s gonna happen. And I’ll price.

Scarlet
Not necessarily female, feminine. Okay. The perfect balance of like feminine, masculine. That’s what we need. No more of this toxic masculinity. This is how we got here

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
This is what we’re trying to pull ourselves out of.

Mitchell
This is a great reckoning of the earth. Okay. Well, I mean hey, I’ll still be doing the podcast trying to get all the crud out of the house I mean suffocated by in two to four years.

Scarlet
I guess I’m gonna do my own spin-off podcast.

Mitchell
Oh dear. Doing the Okay, so earlier today I did say And I didn’t prepare myself, but I said, hey, I what I asked you to think of a list of three to five things that are repetitive, either daily, weekly. You know, like repetitive enough. that you dislike or hate doing. And then I said think of three to five things that you enjoy doing.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
Or and they could be repetitive.

Scarlet
Mm-hmm.

Mitchell
And I can even start off with the inspiration that launched this.

Scarlet
Oh, okay.

Mitchell
I was today I had showered and afterwards I was like I was like, gosh darn it My toenails need to be trimmed and I hate trimming my toenails. Oh. It is irritating. I just cause it’s it’s one of those like I just don’t have the time. I don’t want to take the time to trim my toenails Which sounds stupid, but I was. I was just like, I hate trimming toenails. My own toenails. And it just made me irritated. I thought And then I was like, oh maybe skirt on I should get a pedicure. I was like, I don’t need to pay money. I just don’t like doing this.

Scarlet
And then it made me think it’s I would trim your toenails for you.

Mitchell
Is that how those guys that I take care of get where they’re at Is they also were like, I’m sick of the trimming of the toenails.

Scarlet
I just don’t think they can reach their feet. So I think you should keep stretching. I think you’re lucky that you can still reach your feet.

Mitchell
Well yeah, I can. I just trimming toenails. I just I it’s not even that it doesn’t it’s not gross or anything. It just irritates me that I have to do it.

Scarlet
Okay.

Mitchell
So that’s one of your dislikes.

Scarlet
Okay.

Mitchell
What about you? You actually made an actual list.

Scarlet
I Yeah, washing my hair. Which I feel like is no surprise.

Mitchell
But okay. But it’s just like It you were like if you could get out of from doing it.

Scarlet
It’s just like a process.

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
Because if I wash it, I have to style it. I have to.

Mitchell
Yeah, there’s no option.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
We all know you have to.

Scarlet
Yeah. Like I gotta I gotta do the the you know the the The yeah. It’s a it’s a whole thing.

Mitchell
Right, right. We get it.

Scarlet
I know I have to like there’s like a seven step method and even then I don’t know what kind of day it’s gonna be. And usually it’s only good a tomorrow after like I’ve gotten in the shower and it’s gotten a little humidity and its natural form is like a little poofier.

Mitchell
Uh-huh.

Scarlet
So it’s usually better day two and beyond.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
So yeah, I just hate washing my hair and then I’m pulling out all this loose hair and that’s how you find those hair monsters on the wall that I sometimes forget to take out. Because I don’t want it to like clog up the drain.

Mitchell
So I just try to like

Scarlet
put it on the wall and like take it and flush it down the toilet.

Mitchell
Okay. Well the hair. Okay. That’s part of that. Yeah. Okay. Uh, I don’t know that I have any more up the top of my head. Okay, well here’s Oh my gosh. No no, here’s another one. Here is one that I was thinking of. I hate Sorting, I hate dealing with mail. I hate getting mail. I hate opening mail. I hate having to sort whether I need to keep the mail. Get rid of the mail.

Scarlet
Get rid of it.

Mitchell
It’s a bill. Should I pay the bill? No, why can’t they say it’s electronically? I hate, but I feel so compelled. But I hate it’s just like That’s what those piles are just mail and I’m gonna say gee money.

Scarlet
This is true.

Mitchell
I can’t stand it.

Scarlet
Okay, my yes. Everybody my husband has to open up every single piece of mail. And let me tell you why Because he’s always like, every now and there every now and then there’s a one dollar bill in there. So outrageous.

Mitchell
It’s true I was on a streak there for a while in the late nineties. I was getting a lot of things.

Scarlet
And yeah, here we are.

Mitchell
I was getting a lot of things.

Scarlet
But apparently it’s it’s it’s worth the one dollar Yeah, it’s worth finding the $1, which he’s found one time in the last twenty years.

Mitchell
I found I was on streak, I had like six of ’em. I was saving the letters that they were fastened to because they were brand new one dollar bills Brand crispy one dollar bills.

Scarlet
And I but I used to think, man Mitchell, we’re not even printing money anymore.

Mitchell
Okay.

Scarlet
Okay. Well so just throw it away.

Mitchell
The one dollar bill?

Scarlet
No.

Mitchell
The mail the mail. I just open them though. But I mean I get rid of them quickly, but like then some I have to think about ’em.

Scarlet
And throw mine away because you’re always just like, I’m gonna put this right here for Scarlet. I don’t want it.

Mitchell
Well I want you to decide. It’s just another credit card offer. But I need to I just want you to decide though, not me. I’m not you can’t you can’t put that on me.

Scarlet
Okay.

Mitchell
I can’t take on the stress of opening and deciding if your credit card offer.

Scarlet
Okay. Uh dinner.

Mitchell
Oh, I knew this would come up on your planning dinner.

Scarlet
Making dinner, cleaning up after dinner.

Mitchell
Leftovers.

Scarlet
Leftovers.

Mitchell
Fridge.

Scarlet
Eating leftovers. Hearing Mitchell uh stressing about eating leftovers for the next week. Well those leftovers are still in the fridge. What about those leftovers in the fridge?

Mitchell
Because it’s a timeline. You open our fridge and you can s you can journey back in time. So

Scarlet
Even this morning this morning, I was like, okay, we ate out last night, which means tonight I have to make dinner. Which is like court order community service.

Mitchell
Couldn’t we just go out again? Okay, sorry. It just doesn’t feel You used to enjoy it. You used to love cooking, did you not?

Scarlet
Yeah, I used to love cooking before kids.

Mitchell
And I used to love cleaning out my toenails and trimming the edges and smelling that stuff that comes out of the corner of them.

Scarlet
That’s so disgusting.

Mitchell
Have you ever smelled it though? No. It’s horrible Just in the big toe.

Scarlet
I just please delete that part. I don’t want anybody to know that you do that.

Mitchell
I don’t do it. I did it with my younger.

Scarlet
So here we are, it’s almost four o’clock and I’m s I’ve been thinking since like Two o’clock you’ve been sitting on the bed crying and all I was thinking was I need to go to the store and get the ingredients for dinner or we’re not gonna be eating until seven o’clock and I have to like th that’s how my that’s where my mind’s been all day long and I hate it. Me too. Okay.

Mitchell
Now that it’s all my fault, this dinner is not a good thing.

Scarlet
It’s not.

Mitchell
So I have a cry in the afternoon, and this is the problem for you. I’m sorry. I am going through non-stop existential crises. I was sitting in bed and I thought for the first time, do I need to take one of those medications that I got a long time ago for anxiety. I’ve never taken one. I don’t know what it’s gonna do.

Scarlet
What if it Okay Clay

Mitchell
Okay, listen. And I was like, talked myself down off of this.

Scarlet
Do I take the tetanus shot or do I just get tetanus? What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? What do I do?

Mitchell
I don’t know. How about take the rusty nail out of your fruit? Your foot your foot your foot first. I was just okay. This is a different episode, but I’m just saying I we got 35 seconds on the timer. I still have my don’t okay, let’s do your list because I don’t know what the point of my life is.

Scarlet
Okay, my uh last dislike making appointments

Mitchell
Oh wow.

Scarlet
Which is one of my I have to go see a gynecologist because I could have a raging anything and wouldn’t even know it. I gotta get my IUD removed.

Mitchell
I think you need to see a galacologist Bingo! That’s that feminine power coming out instead of a gynecologist. Another phrase coined right here, stuffication and gallic galnecologist. That sound you know what it means I hate talking on the phone which is part of that appointment thing. I hate I you know it was so funny it’s like oh I gotta make an appointment for this Oh I’ve gotta call someone on the f phone and it is gut wrenching to call and then when you do it and it’s over you’re like oh that was easy and and I literally I can do that at 9. 30 a. m. the rest of the day. I’m like, I can nap. I can’t get a nap.

Scarlet
And what’s I know what’s crazy about that is you’re not even a millennial. This is like a my generation thing.

Mitchell
I know, but I am like, I am complete. I have done something. I made a dentist appointment, people. And then I feel good, but I hate every moment leaning, uh, uh and I gotta get my things and pull out a calendar and do all the things.

Scarlet
So kudos to all the doctors out there who make their things exclusively online. But it’s that like, oh, you’ve never been here before?

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
You’re gonna have to call the office.

Mitchell
Yeah, I guess I never will be either. Um

Scarlet
I’ll just die.

Mitchell
So did you have three things that you like doing?

Scarlet
Oh yeah.

Mitchell
Or did you have five or three?

Scarlet
Um I like doing my walking pad while I like my podcast and news thing. I listen to day I have like my little routines I go through and like catch up on my on my podcast and then my little YouTube theme jigs and then my Yeah, so I like doing that and it and because when I’m listening to my podcast and my news things, I can do laundry, I can vacuum, I can walk on my walking pack. I love my morning coffee. I look forward to that every morning.

Mitchell
I used to.

Scarlet
And I love sleeping.

Mitchell
Mm. I love I didn’t really have much left I didn’t have any likes or loves that I Like recently I’d say I like feeding the squirrels by hand. That’s actually kind of fun, but like that s makes me smile. I like getting a nap on the couch in the afternoon when there’s sunshine in this room and it’s like cozy. I do like that.

Scarlet
See?

Mitchell
Yeah.

Scarlet
See?

Mitchell
A repetitive thing that I like. I actually which I I like I actually like shaving. I just don’t take the time. I enjoy those moments which is just uh you know doing my ritual and shaving So but we need to find more of those and less of the things that we don’t like. Or do you get rid of the things you don’t like? Or do you find a way to make them enjoyable? I don’t know. Those are too many questions this late in the game of the show.

Scarlet
Yeah. I don’t think I can get anybody to wash my hair for me.

Mitchell
My friend was trying to okay, I have a friend I reconnect well talk with because it’s his birthday recently. And I was like, oh He told me about some AI thing another friend of ours working on anyways, and it was like, oh try this because then you can tell it do this, that, and that. And I tried the AI thing and it was kinda not wasn’t quite delivering But that’s one of the few uses I thought, yeah, if I could just talk into my phone and say, He sent me up an appointment for this and it needs to be on this time, this time at this place But I’m still too much of a control person. I’m afraid I’d be like, Oh, it’d be like, Oh, we set you up at uh, you know, the Hillsborough Toyota for that oil change. Like I told you specifically the one that’s close to my house. Like I’m afraid but I feel like some of this Some of that stuff could be offloaded anyway.

Scarlet
I feel like people are putting too much trust into AI right now when it’s still very in its infancy.

Mitchell
I was initially like, hey, this is cool, but I’ve come come 180 and now I’m like, I don’t really care about AI because nothing is proven to actually be helpful for me. Siri can’t get a darn thing right when I’m speaking into it. Half the time she fires up out of the blue and is like Makes up some things she thought I said because I accidentally used two words that sounded like the or e. And then uh ChatGBT does help with the show notes and stuff, but it’s kinda hit or miss, but I don’t know And some of the image I mean, I don’t know. I I’m not sold on it. Initially I was like, this is cool, but I think once that glamour and glow of like, hey, I can make an image of my cat flying Like Superman into, you know, the Cirque du Soleil, whatever you want to make. Seems cool, but then once you get over the initial um novelty of it, it’s like, I don’t know, I need it to do something useful for me. Like Think of dinner, create the list, send the order in and have it delivered to the door. Anyway.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
But that’s neither here nor there. Okay. See, well we gotta wrap this show up.

Scarlet
Okay.

Mitchell
Any final thoughts?

Scarlet
I mean I could guess I could go on about how jaded I am about all the billionaires and how they’re in collusion with

Mitchell
Right. But I appreciate your uh feminine energy. I appreciate your compliment to me as your husband.

Scarlet
Okay.

Mitchell
I do.

Scarlet
Yeah.

Mitchell
And our son I mean I he better become a musical genius.

Scarlet
She is gonna have some respect for women, let me tell you. That kid’s been watching Taylor Swift. From the beginning. He’s really into Bad Bunny right now, too. Who I think also has is very in touch with his femininity.

Mitchell
And I always have been. Yeah. So Okay.

Scarlet
Until next time. I’m Scarlet.

Mitchell
And I’m Mitchell.

Scarlet
And this is doing the most. I forgot where I was gonna go with that.

Mitchell
With what?

Scarlet
I forgot what came after when I said my name.

Mitchell
That’s why I hesitated. Well usually say and we’re doing the most and then you say Bye.

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